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"Landings" video on Practice Day 2 of the 2019 New Zealand HG National Championship at Murchison

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 1:54 am
by Odakyu-sen
Just what it says on the can, boys...


Re: "Landings" video on Practice Day 2 of the 2019 New Zealand HG National Championship at Murchison

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 7:57 am
by Paul H
Looks like it was just a little bit windy. If the flights weren't exciting, the landings made up for it.

Re: "Landings" video on Practice Day 2 of the 2019 New Zealand HG National Championship at Murchison

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 9:12 am
by Rcaux
A lot of luck was used there... You always want to keep good speed and control until push-out time, even more in turbulence.

https://youtu.be/yDaEF81crNg?t=260 shows the right hands positions:
1. to control the glider, and then
2. to push out when the pulling pressure disappears (with a correct trim)

Happy landings, Raymond

Re: "Landings" video on Practice Day 2 of the 2019 New Zealand HG National Championship at Murchison

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 11:13 am
by DMarley
Rcaux wrote:
Mon Feb 04, 2019 9:12 am
A lot of luck was used there... You always want to keep good speed and control until push-out time, even more in turbulence.

https://youtu.be/yDaEF81crNg?t=260 shows the right hands positions:
1. to control the glider, and then
2. to push out when the pulling pressure disappears (with a correct trim)

Happy landings, Raymond
:roll:

Re: "Landings" video on Practice Day 2 of the 2019 New Zealand HG National Championship at Murchison

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 4:22 pm
by Felix
Yikes! LOTS of luck...

Re: "Landings" video on Practice Day 2 of the 2019 New Zealand HG National Championship at Murchison

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 5:12 pm
by sg
Considering the wind speed.... 13mph? or so.... and junk air...

Some of those approaches we're just too slow. Gradient anyone?

The guys who didn't bother to flare and jogged it in while continuing to fly the wing = SMART :goodidea:

Re: "Landings" video on Practice Day 2 of the 2019 New Zealand HG National Championship at Murchison

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 10:52 pm
by entelin
I was about to comment on the video when I saw it, but decided not to since I didn't want to sound negative. For real though, most of those landings had me cringing. Is there some logical reason people decide to transition before trim? Results in dropping airspeed and popping up at what I'm pretty sure is still an altitude that could still seriously injure if one gets some really bad luck with the air... 2:54 for example. Almost none of them produce a period of level flight on the ground, they just sink into it and flare. Am I missing something here? Is there some legitimate technique on display here that I just don't "get"? I mean at 3:54 there's a guy on a topless that sinks in at or under trim and then stalls himself into the ground. Why?

Re: "Landings" video on Practice Day 2 of the 2019 New Zealand HG National Championship at Murchison

Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2019 8:52 am
by sg
You're not missing anything. You're nailing it.

My instructor was a stickler for perfect approaches, which meant, you came in with lots of speed, and had a nice loooong round out, before you slowed down to trim and flared. This always led to safe and consistent landings for me.

You're not sounding negative, you're giving good feedback and people shouldn't have hyper thin skins when discussing stuff like this that can lead to improvements of everyone's technique.

entelin wrote:
Thu Feb 07, 2019 10:52 pm
I was about to comment on the video when I saw it, but decided not to since I didn't want to sound negative. For real though, most of those landings had me cringing. Is there some logical reason people decide to transition before trim? Results in dropping airspeed and popping up at what I'm pretty sure is still an altitude that could still seriously injure if one gets some really bad luck with the air... 2:54 for example. Almost none of them produce a period of level flight on the ground, they just sink into it and flare. Am I missing something here? Is there some legitimate technique on display here that I just don't "get"? I mean at 3:54 there's a guy on a topless that sinks in at or under trim and then stalls himself into the ground. Why?